Thomas Reddell & Member Johns

Leslie's gg-grandparents

 From Josephine Lindsay Bass and Becky Bonner. 2000

"Thomas is another of the REDDELLS whose relationship to John D. has not been satisfactorily determined. For many years he was thought to be John D.' s son, a position the editor still holds, and he will be presented as such in this work. 

He lived near John D. in Union Co., IL, and in Giles and Lawrence Co., TN. However, since at least two of his children said he was born in Virginia, and no record has been found of him in North Carolina, nor of John D. in Virginia, there is a reasonable doubt about their relationship.

 The spelling of the name is not such a concern, since many of the family used variant spellings of the name. According to his family Bible, Thomas was born 22 Jul 1794. Various of his descendants have given TN, VA and NC as his place of birth. 

He married Member Johns ca. 1815. She was born 21 Mar 1796. The places of their marriage and her birth have not been documented at this time. 

Dr. Nettie Lee BENSON, Editor of "THE RIDDELL, REDDELL, RIDDLE, RUDDLE TRAIL" states in Vol. II, No. 2, page 26 as follows: "The editor and compiler of THE TRAIL believes the place of birth to be Virginia, especially since the two sons who spent the most time with their parents gave in the 1880 census Virginia as the place of birth of both Thomas RIDDELL, born on 22 Jul 1794 and his wife, Member JOHNS, born on 21 Mar 1796. One or the other of them was said to be of Cherokee Indian descent, for all the sons and daughters claimed to be one-quarter Cherokee Indian, and several descendants who later migrated to Oklahoma are said to have tried to acquire land there on the basis of that descent. Records for these claims have not been found to date." 

The first positive record of Thomas shows him living in Union Co., IL, near the Ohio River, in 1818. He lived there until some time in the early to mid 1820, when he moved to Giles Co., TN.

 At this same time, John D. REDDELL was also living in Union Co., IL and he also moved to Giles Co., TN at about the same time. Lawrence Co., TN land records, Entry 114, show that Thomas had acquired 60 acres of land, by virtue of the occupant law, on the waters of Shoal Creek in 1837. 

Later records indicate that he had established a mill on Big Shoal Creek by late 1829. Entry 274, Book B, shows Thomas being granted 40 acres of land, again by virtue of the occupant law and it is on this land that he apparently built his mill. 

William, his brother, and James M., his son , were the chain bearers on this survey completed by John Stribling. 

Entry 357, Book B, shows that Member RIDDELL was granted 100 acres of land, by virtue of the occupant law, on the waters of Big Shoal Creek. Joseph, her son, and George Eaton, were chain bearers and John Stribling was surveyor. 

This entry is dated 17 Feb 1841 and the description of the land shows it to be 

 

different from the land granted to Thomas. Although forty acres of the land, and the mill, was sold by the heirs on 24 Oct 1854. It is believed that Thomas died in Lawrence County in the late 1830's or early 1840's and that Member and the younger children continued to live there for some time before moving to Leake Co., MS where at least three of the children were married. 

Some of the older children had already moved to AR and/or TX and most of the others moved to one or both of these states at some time.

 Thomas and Member had fourteen children. It is interesting to note that in most of the records found for these children they are using the REDDELL spelling of the name. Three of them, Jane, Member Mira and Elizabeth Charlotte, died young and no information is available on them. 

Information on four of them, Samuel Jefferson, John Holland, Cynthia Ann and Thomas J., is more extensive and will be presented just before their group sheets. Brief information on the others will be presented here. 

James Madison married twice in Lawrence Co., TN and land records for that county show he owned land in that county. He is shown in the census for Falls Co., TX in 1860 with what is apparently a third wife. Joseph J. married twice in Lawrence County. They had four children before his death in the Civil War. 

Catherine Diberry married in Lawrence County and had 14 children. She lived in Leake Co., MS, where many of her children were born, and in Eastland and Erath Counties in TX. She died in Erath Co., TX. 

Martha Leetla married in Lawrence Co., TN and soon moved to Attala Co., MS. She had ten children, most of whom remained in MS. At least one moved to TX and one to TN. Isaac Anderson married once in TN. 

She and her first child died in childbirth. He married again in Leake Co., MS and had 13 children by this wife. He served in Company F of 33rd Mississippi Infantry CSA. He died in Leake Co., MS 21 Jun 1919. 

Mary Gentha married Christopher C. ARNOLD on 8 Oct 1857 in Newport, AR. She had apparently gone to AR to visit or live with either her brother, John Holland, or her sister Cynthia Ann, who both lived in AR for a time. She had six children and died in Izard Co., AR in Feb 1908. 

William Henry was born in Lawrence Co ., TN. He first married Minerva A. YOUNG in Leake Co., MS. They had three children. He served in the 4th Mississippi Infantry CSA from 1861-1865. He married Melissa A. PRICE 28 Mar 1867 in Grayson Co., TX. They had seven children. He was a farmer, carpenter and a Dallas Co., TX police officer. He was killed on 17 Jun 1892 while a member of the Dallas Police Force. He always told his family he descended from Lord RIDDELL of England, a claim which has not been verified." [S105] [S105]

 

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  • ID: I47343

  • Reference Number: 47343

  • Name: Thomas Richard REDDELL

  • Sex: M

  • Change Date: 25 SEP 1999

  • Birth: 22 JUL 1794 in Borland, Newton County, Arkansas, USA

  • Death: 1840 in Lawrence, Madison County, Tennessee, USA

    Marriage 1 Member JOHNS b: 21 MAR 1796 in Tennessee, USA

    • Married: 1818 in Giles County, Tennessee, USA

Children

  1. Has No Children James Madison REDDELL b: 27 JAN 1817 in Tn or IL

  2. Has No Children Samuel Jefferson REDDELL b: 13 JUL 1818 in ,Union,IL

  3. Has No Children Jane REDDELL

  4. Has No Children John Holland REDDELL b: 11 MAR 1822 in ,,Tn

  5. Has No Children Joseph J REDDELL b: 2 JAN 1824 in Tn

  6. Has No Children Cynthia Ann REDDELL b: 23 MAR 1825 in ,Giles,Tn

  7. Has Children Thomas Jefferson REDDELL b: 11 OCT 1827 in ,Lawrence,Tn

  8. Has No Children Catherine Diberry REDDELL b: 15 JAN 1829 in ,Lawrence,Tn

  9. Has No Children Martha Leetla REDDELL b: 19 JAN 1831 in ,Lawrence,Tn

  10. Has No Children Member Mira REDDELL

  11. Has No Children Isaac Anderson REDDELL b: 14 OCT 1833 in West Point,,Tn

  12. Has No Children Mary Gentha REDDELL b: 8 DEC 1835 in West Point,Tn

  13. Has No Children William Henry REDDELL b: 9 MAR 1837 in West Point,Tn

  14. Has No Children Elizabeth Charlotte REDDELL

 

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